Greatest Conjunction aka Bethlehem Star

Disclaimer: In this OP I will leave out much that I will supply later on as the thread progresses, stuff like details into astrological
significance of this astronomical phenomenon, detailed biblical references and secular observations and stuff relating to how our calendars have
changed over time and explanations of this and how there are pockets of lost time and days being left out or added at times of calibration, change and
inter-calculating different calendrical systems up through the ages. I’ll pick these subjects up as they become relevant in the discussion of the
subject at hand.

When the Church figured it would be natural to introduce a new calendar and start the time off at the date for the Birth of Christ, they weren’t
especially thorough in their research. Or so it seems. ‘Anno Domine’ or the ‘Year of the Lord’ 1AD can’t possibly be the correct year for the
Saviour’s birth. Not only is it four years after Herod the Great died and the mention of Quirinius of Syria simply doesn’t make any sense, the
astronomical events recorded had happened about six years before 1AD. But sometimes between 7 and 5BC (depending on the source) there happened
something in the constellation of Pisces sometime around 6BC, a triple conjunction between Saturn and Jupiter over a period of about a year, that
happens once every millennium and happened to coincide with the dawn of a new astrological age, the Age of Pisces, which happens once every 2160
years.

First let’s go through the terms and the difference between a ‘Great Conjunction’ and the ‘Greatest Conjunction’:

en.wikipedia.org…


A Great Conjunction is a conjunction of the planets Jupiter and Saturn. The last Great
Conjunction took place on May 31, 2000, while the next one will be in late December 2020. Great Conjunctions take place regularly, every 18–20
years, as a result of the combined ~12-year orbital period of Jupiter around the Sun, and Saturn’s ~30-year orbital period. The 2000 conjunction fell
within mere weeks after both had passed conjunction with the Sun, and it was very difficult to observe without visual aid because the two planets rose
only 30–45 minutes before sunrise, depending upon the location of the observer.

Greatest conjunction is a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn at or near their opposition to the Sun. In this scenario, Jupiter and Saturn will
occupy the same position in right ascension on three separate occasions over a period of a few months. Such tripled occurrences are actually known as
triple conjunctions.

The below is from a table I found HERE, and it shows dates for what is
called ‘Great Conjunctions’ or triple conjunctions between Saturn and Jupiter from the ‘Star of Bethlehem’ to the last one which was between 1980 to
1981. The table below originally contains all conjunctions between Jupiter and Saturn, but I have isolated the Great conjunctions and left the others
out. Also, for the negative numbers, 1BC is 0, so -1 becomes 2BC and -6 is 7BC, also the datestamps seem a bit odd, but it’s good for illustration:

THE JUPITER-SATURN CONJUNCTION
(GEOCENTRIC TROPICAL ZODIAC)
600 BCE to 2400 CE
copyright 1998-1999 by Richard Nolle
all rights reserved
www.astropro.com… – rnolle@astropro.com

+————-+———-+—–+———+——–+
| DATE | TIME | ARC | JUPITER | SATURN |
+————-+———-+—–+———+——–+

|MAY 29, -6 | 09:13 AM | 000 | 20PI56 | 20PI56 |
|OCT 01, -6 | 06:02 AM | 000 | 17PI25R | 17PI25R|
|DEC 05, -6 | 02:46 PM | 000 | 15PI34 | 15PI34 |

|NOV 28, 332 | 02:29 AM | 000 | 05LI36 | 05LI36 |
|APR 22, 333 | 04:55 PM | 000 | 02LI10R | 02LI10R|
|JUN 15, 333 | 08:22 PM | 000 | 00LI57 | 00LI57 |

|AUG 28, 411 | 08:28 PM | 000 | 04GE08 | 04GE08 |
|NOV 02, 411 | 09:58 AM | 000 | 02GE32R | 02GE32R|
|MAR 11, 412 | 08:42 AM | 000 | 29TA13 | 29TA13 |

|JAN 14, 452 | 06:20 AM | 000 | 22LI43 | 22LI43 |
|MAR 17, 452 | 02:10 PM | 000 | 21LI13R | 21LI13R|
|AUG 03, 452 | 07:25 AM | 000 | 17LI54 | 17LI54 |

|SEP 13, 709 | 07:41 PM | 000 | 22CA53 | 22CA53 |
|FEB 04, 710 | 11:30 PM | 000 | 19CA33R | 19CA33R|
|MAR 30, 710 | 04:44 PM | 000 | 18CA20 | 18CA20 |

|JUN 25, 967 | 12:44 PM | 000 | 17AR34 | 17AR34 |
|OCT 06, 967 | 09:30 AM | 000 | 14AR42R | 14AR42R|
|JAN 04, 968 | 05:51 AM | 000 | 12AR09 | 12AR09 |

|NOV 08, 1007 | 00:25 AM | 000 | 13VI05 | 13VI05 |
|MAR 07, 1008 | 02:38 AM | 000 | 10VI23R | 10VI23R|
|JUN 01, 1008 | 05:23 PM | 000 | 08VI28 | 08VI28 |

|DEC 25, 1305 | 11:23 AM | 000 | 00SC49 | 00SC49 |
|APR 20, 1306 | 01:48 PM | 000 | 28LI05R | 28LI05R|
|JUL 19, 1306 | 11:11 AM | 000 | 26LI01 | 26LI01 |

|FEB 14, 1425 | 01:39 PM | 000 | 17SC18 | 17SC18 |
|MAR 18, 1425 | 08:40 AM | 000 | 16SC33R | 16SC33R|
|AUG 26, 1425 | 07:19 AM | 000 | 12SC40 | 12SC40 |

|OCT 24, 1682 | 07:35 AM | 000 | 19LE09 | 19LE09 |
|FEB 09, 1683 | 01:28 AM | 000 | 16LE43R | 16LE43R|
|MAY 18, 1683 | 05:48 AM | 000 | 14LE30 | 14LE30 |

|AUG 08, 1940 | 01:21 AM | 000 | 14TA27 | 14TA27 |
|OCT 20, 1940 | 04:38 AM | 000 | 12TA28R | 12TA28R|
|FEB 15, 1941 | 06:38 AM | 000 | 09TA07 | 09TA07 |

|DEC 31, 1980 | 09:17 PM | 000 | 09LI30 | 09LI30 |
|MAR 04, 1981 | 06:55 PM | 000 | 08LI06R | 08LI06R|
|JUL 24, 1981 | 04:13 AM | 000 | 04LI56 | 04LI56 |

|SEP 07, 2238 | 04:35 PM | 000 | 06CA38 | 06CA38 |
|JAN 13, 2239 | 11:25 AM | 000 | 03CA25R | 03CA25R|
|MAR 22, 2239 | 07:59 PM | 000 | 01CA41 | 01CA41 |

|FEB 06, 2279 | 05:25 PM | 000 | 25SC59 | 25SC59 |
|MAY 07, 2279 | 05:59 AM | 000 | 23SC51R | 23SC51R|
|AUG 31, 2279 | 02:24 PM | 000 | 21SC07 | 21SC07 |

+————-+———-+—–+———+——–+
NOTES:
BCE = Before Common Era (aka BC)
CE = Common Era (aka AD)
R = Retrograde

[Continued below….]

Source for my Table above == www.astropro.com…
Wikipedia on Great/Greatest Conjunction == en.wikipedia.org…
Wikipedia on Triple Conjunctions == en.wikipedia.org…

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